Jul 12, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01
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#1
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Somewhere cold
Guild: The Followers of the Messiah
Profession: W/Me
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Balthazar Aura
25 energy is WAY TO MUCH ANET!!! WHAT WAS YOU THINKING? My monk has 33 energy at lvl 20, and 25 energy should be for ELEMENTALISTS. 1 spell costing 75% of your energy is WAY to much, especially when it has little benefits.
ANET you HAVE to do the following.
make Balt aura cost less.
make Balt aura last longer, perfer 60 seconds like zealot fire
make Balt aura deal WAY more damage
Anyone is welcomed to sign, because more people sign more ANET remembers to do the following stated earlier.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06
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#2
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Its fine the way it is. If it was 60 seconds, It would be way too overpowered. At 16 smiting, it does 26 dmg for 10 seconds, so a possible of 260 dmg.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:08 PM // 21:08
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#3
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grand Court of Selket/Sebelkeh
Guild: What If You Had An Outpost Named After You [slkt]
Profession: W/
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Ever heard of a focus?
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16
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#4
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Oct 2005
Profession: R/Mo
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60 seconds? Thats WAY WAY WAY overpowered.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18
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#5
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
60 seconds? Thats WAY WAY WAY overpowered.
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60 seconds is a possible 1560dmg. Thats not overpowered! Jeez.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20
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#6
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Banned
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Lol /signed 60 Second Zealot Fire! + 55% Enchantments And Damn I'll Be Teh Own~
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22
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#7
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: California
Guild: None
Profession: Mo/N
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I do agree they need to lower energy cost... but thats it.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25
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#8
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Banned
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Behind the bush once again
Guild: Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
25 energy is WAY TO MUCH ANET!!! WHAT WAS YOU THINKING? My monk has 33 energy at lvl 20, and 25 energy should be for ELEMENTALISTS. 1 spell costing 75% of your energy is WAY to much, especially when it has little benefits.
ANET you HAVE to do the following.
make Balt aura cost less.
make Balt aura last longer, perfer 60 seconds like zealot fire
make Balt aura deal WAY more damage
Anyone is welcomed to sign, because more people sign more ANET remembers to do the following stated earlier.
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This is sarcasm right?
Haha good one buddy.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25
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#9
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Flying Gophers
Profession: Rt/P
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I think...an energy cost of 20 would be more appropriate. But..I guess ANET doesn't like that multiple of five :P
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25
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#10
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Forge Runner
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60 second mega rolf xD
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27
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#11
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Mar 2006
Guild: Lost Haven
Profession: A/Mo
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yeah maybe get the energy down to 20? I thought 15 at first, then i re read the skill lol
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29
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#12
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unholy guardian
yeah maybe get the energy down to 20? I thought 15 at first, then i re read the skill lol
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So AoE smiters could put it on someone for 15? thats overpowered.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32
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#13
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Wilds Pathfinder
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its fine as is, dont fix something that isnt broken.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33
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#14
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]
Profession: Mo/Me
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With a sword (or axe) + %20 ench and a focus + %20 ench you can get it to last longer expecially if you add in blessed aura + %30 (lasts about 17 seconds) and use Air of enchant to lower the cost. Balths is already a pretty powerful spell if used correctly, but it's also AoE and bad for pve. You'll get about 200 dmg (per adjacent target) over the 17 seconds for about 20e, not to bad.
If you're set up right you should be pushing 50e, 33e is way to low for a monk. Not a wonder why you don't know about smiting prayer tricks...
Last edited by gabrial heart; Jul 12, 2006 at 09:36 PM // 21:36..
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47
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#15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cavalon
Guild: The Last Pirates (SaVY)
Profession: N/
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Its used a lot of GvG already, I dont think it should be changed.
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Jul 12, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52
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#16
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Somewhere cold
Guild: The Followers of the Messiah
Profession: W/Me
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Look at zealot fire, yeah 35 damage, and if you get hit each second for 60 seconds 2100 to adjecent foes, zealot fire doesnt cost 25 mana. If this spell can be overpowered at 60 seconds so is zealot fire. Yeah 4 real lower the mana.
See my 55 monk, hes having hard times, see whenever I goto HA I never have enough mana to cast balt aura, so yeah its way overlooked, people move away from it so you only get like 5- 7 seconds of it, its not like it hits entire area. 25 mana, kidding me, more like 15, maybe 20. This other spell that does damage in area costs 5 mana and lasts 10 seconds, I think that spell owns balt aura, compared to stats balt aura has now.
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Jul 12, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01
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#17
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
Look at zealot fire, yeah 35 damage, and if you get hit each second for 60 seconds 2100 to adjecent foes, zealot fire doesnt cost 25 mana. If this spell can be overpowered at 60 seconds so is zealot fire. Yeah 4 real lower the mana.
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Zealot's Fire deals, zOMFG, Fire damage. And you know fire damage gets reduced by armor while holy damage from Bathalzar's Aura doesn't get reduced.
Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
See my 55 monk, hes having hard times, see whenever I goto HA I never have enough mana to cast balt aura,
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What the hell? You're bringing a 55 monk into Hero's Ascent? Have you never heard of a focus item?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
so yeah its way overlooked, people move away from it so you only get like 5- 7 seconds of it, its not like it hits entire area. 25 mana, kidding me, more like 15, maybe 20.
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That's why some Dual Smite builds have windborne speed added to give the warriors a speed boost so Bathalazar's Aura deals as much damage in it's short life of 12 seconds.
With Air of Enchantment, Balthazar's Aura cost 20 energy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
This other spell that does damage in area costs 5 mana and lasts 10 seconds, I think that spell owns balt aura, compared to stats balt aura has now.
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That would be Symbol of Wrath or Kirin's Wrath which only last for 5 seconds but has a recharge of 30 seconds and it isn't an enchantment!
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Jul 12, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09
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#18
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Finland
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Zealot Fire does fire damage which do armor checks so anyone which have higher than 60 armor, will receive less damage. Zealot also requires more attention because the player who has it, must keep spamming skills on someone to get damage from it.
Balthazar's Aura does armor ignoring damage so it does same damage to everyone expect warriors which usually have 5-7 absorb. It does not require much attention from the caster to get some damage out of it. The player who has it, will do the rest. Timing is important. I don't know how bad glyphs are in PvP but they cut the energy cost a lot from 25 energy spells.
BA is not useless in PvE. With right skills, you can spit two BAs for example to two warriors and if they are surrounded, the damage output is just insane. Remember, it does double damage to undead.
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Jul 12, 2006, 10:27 PM // 22:27
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#19
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Journeyman
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
Look at zealot fire, yeah 35 damage, and if you get hit each second for 60 seconds 2100 to adjecent foes, zealot fire doesnt cost 25 mana.
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Does Zealot's Fire deal 35 damage on its own, every second? no. it activates PER SKILL YOU CAST. that's why it costs 10 energy. because it costs you MORE ENERGY to activate it.
ALSO, Zealot's deals FIRE DAMAGE. FIRE DAMAGE is MITIGATED BY ARMOR. BALTHAZAR'S AURA DEALS ARMOR IGNORING DAMAGE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
If this spell can be overpowered at 60 seconds so is zealot fire. Yeah 4 real lower the mana.
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as stated, zealot's fire DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME EFFECTS AS BALTHAZAR'S AURA, even though it lasts for 50 more seconds.
Quote:
Originally Posted by quanzong
See my 55 monk, hes having hard times, see whenever I goto HA I never have enough mana to cast balt aura, so yeah its way overlooked, people move away from it so you only get like 5- 7 seconds of it, its not like it hits entire area. 25 mana, kidding me, more like 15, maybe 20. This other spell that does damage in area costs 5 mana and lasts 10 seconds, I think that spell owns balt aura, compared to stats balt aura has now.
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ONE: YOU DO NOT BRING 55 MONKS INTO HA. YOU DO NOT BRING 55 MONKS INTO HA.
TWO: Are you using a focus? a staff??!?!?!?! any items AT ALL?!??
THREE: this "other spell" is Symbol of Wrath, which is similiar only in the way it deals damage. it's like a land mine; you set it and anyone who comes near it will get damaged. IT DOES NOT OWN BALTHAZAR'S AURA. Balthazar's Aura can FOLLOW THE TARGET.
think about Balthazar's Aura before you start complaining about it.
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Jul 12, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37
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#20
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Elite Guru
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Manchester, England
Guild: SMS/Victrix
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wow, some people are just incredible
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